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Mother Who Killed New Baby Gets Life Sentence - Should have got DP!
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KenSpenser
2006-09-28 14:37:12 UTC
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A jury in Wetaskiwin Alberta Canada decided correctly, regarding the young
mother who deliberately killed her newborn son, then threw the newborn's body
over the fence into a neighbour's yard,

The jury, after lengthy deliberations and review of the evidence, convicted
the woman of manslaughter, and the court sentenced her to life in prison,
with no chance to apply for parole for at least 10 years.

The killer's family were outraged at this proper sentence, calling the jurors
bastards. Bleeding heart liars/lawyers say it is unusual for such a stern
sentence for child murders.

Perhaps people have finally had enough of the namby-pamby sentences
givenout by Canadian judges to serious criminals.

Perhaps now, more juries will actually mete out proper justice.
You do the crime, get ready to do the time.

Pity the death sentence is no longer available in Canada.
Mind you, perhaps the Conservatives will re-introduce this form of proper
punishment.
TopPoster .
2006-09-28 18:49:26 UTC
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If she was sane at the time she would have buried the body and no one would
have known


A list of infanticide cases in Canada
Sep 27 8:11 PM US/Eastern






A list of infanticide cases in Canada
(CP) - Katrina Effert of Wetaskiwin, Alta., has been convicted of
second-degree murder for killing her newborn baby boy. Here's what has
happened in some other Canadian cases of newborn killing:

Melanie Sheila Murphy, 21: left her baby daughter in garbage bag at the
college she was attending in Camrose, Alta. Given suspended sentence in 1998
for infanticide and ordered to perform 75 hours of community service.

Shelley Netter, 26: left her baby daughter in garbage bag on her Edmonton
doorstep. Originally charged with infanticide, but received three-year
suspended sentence in 1998 after pleading guilty to failing to provide the
necessities of life.

Leanne Wise, 27: delivered her baby in a washroom at the Calgary bingo hall
where she worked, dumped it in a trash can and then went back to her job.
Received 18-month suspended sentence in 2000 for disposing of the dead body
with intent to conceal its delivery.

Kelly Lynn Rector, 19: gave birth in a bingo hall washroom in Brantford,
Ont., and left the infant in a toilet bowl. Granted absolute discharge after
pleading guilty to concealing the body of a newborn.

Liza Santos, 31: strangled her seven-week-old baby at home in Calgary,
thinking she was protecting him from demons. Charged with second- degree
murder but found not criminally responsible due to mental disorder.




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Post by KenSpenser
A jury in Wetaskiwin Alberta Canada decided correctly, regarding the young
mother who deliberately killed her newborn son, then threw the newborn's body
over the fence into a neighbour's yard,
The jury, after lengthy deliberations and review of the evidence, convicted
the woman of manslaughter, and the court sentenced her to life in prison,
with no chance to apply for parole for at least 10 years.
The killer's family were outraged at this proper sentence, calling the jurors
bastards. Bleeding heart liars/lawyers say it is unusual for such a stern
sentence for child murders.
Perhaps people have finally had enough of the namby-pamby sentences
givenout by Canadian judges to serious criminals.
Perhaps now, more juries will actually mete out proper justice.
You do the crime, get ready to do the time.
Pity the death sentence is no longer available in Canada.
Mind you, perhaps the Conservatives will re-introduce this form of proper
punishment.
KenSpenser
2006-09-29 00:09:00 UTC
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On Thu, 28 Sep 2006 12:49:26 -0600, "TopPoster
Post by TopPoster .
If she was sane at the time she would have buried the body and no one would
have known
A list of infanticide cases in Canada
Sep 27 8:11 PM US/Eastern
A list of infanticide cases in Canada
(CP) - Katrina Effert of Wetaskiwin, Alta., has been convicted of
second-degree murder for killing her newborn baby boy.
Finally a jury of her peers have decided to make the punishment fit the crime.
Since Canada no longer has the DP, Effert gets life in prison, which in Canada
is called Club Fed!!
Mr Q. Z. Diablo
2006-09-28 20:28:21 UTC
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Post by KenSpenser
A jury in Wetaskiwin Alberta Canada decided correctly, regarding the young
mother who deliberately killed her newborn son, then threw the newborn's body
over the fence into a neighbour's yard,
The jury, after lengthy deliberations and review of the evidence, convicted
the woman of manslaughter, and the court sentenced her to life in prison,
with no chance to apply for parole for at least 10 years.
The killer's family were outraged at this proper sentence, calling the jurors
bastards. Bleeding heart liars/lawyers say it is unusual for such a stern
sentence for child murders.
Perhaps people have finally had enough of the namby-pamby sentences
givenout by Canadian judges to serious criminals.
Perhaps now, more juries will actually mete out proper justice.
You do the crime, get ready to do the time.
Pity the death sentence is no longer available in Canada.
Mind you, perhaps the Conservatives will re-introduce this form of proper
punishment.
I doubt that they would do so for manslaughter, even if they were to
reinstate it at all.

Happy to clear things up for you.

[crossposting retained so that the naive "Ken" receives the benefit of
my wisdom]
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Kenneth McVay OBC
2006-09-29 16:54:05 UTC
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In article <satan.notinnedmeat-***@localhost>,
Mr Q. Z. Diablo <***@dodo.com.au> wrote:

[...]
Post by Mr Q. Z. Diablo
[crossposting retained so that the naive "Ken" receives the benefit of
my wisdom]
Actually, he's Delusional, not naive, and whatever wisdom you might offer will be
ignored, unless you do it a lot, in which case he will change his name to yours while
posting his drivel :-)

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Bill Smith
2006-10-04 05:29:11 UTC
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Take me back, what the hells this gripe about again anyway.
Did he cum in your mouth or rip your anal cavity?
Post by Kenneth McVay OBC
[...]
Post by Mr Q. Z. Diablo
[crossposting retained so that the naive "Ken" receives the benefit of
my wisdom]
Actually, he's Delusional, not naive, and whatever wisdom you might offer will be
ignored, unless you do it a lot, in which case he will change his name to yours while
posting his drivel :-)
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Yitzhak Isaac Goldstein
2006-10-04 08:34:00 UTC
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Post by Bill Smith
Take me back, what the hells this gripe about again anyway.
Did he cum in your mouth or rip your anal cavity?
The ripping a new one is a fate reserved for James 'Jew-Killer' [1]
Noles.

For Grüber [2], you can get all the information you need, here...

http://www.nizkor.org/hweb/people/g/grosvenor-william/

Y.

[1] Copyright John Rennie
[2] 1] criminal alias after convictions for assault and embezzlement
in Newcastle-upon-Tyne: Grosvenor
--
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AADP's 'left-wing Jewish intellectual'
http://jewish-and-proud-of-it.blogspot.com/
See Jim Noles get comprehensively hammered over his idiotic
belief that 'kippa' is not a Hebrew word, and 'yarmulke' is not
a Yiddish word: http://minilien.fr/a0juqb
The Official AADP FAQ: http://www.chez.com/desmondcoughlan/dp/faq/
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unknown
2006-10-20 05:27:16 UTC
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Post by Yitzhak Isaac Goldstein
Post by Bill Smith
Take me back, what the hells this gripe about again anyway.
Did he cum in your mouth or rip your anal cavity?
The ripping a new one is a fate reserved for James 'Jew-Killer' [1]
Noles.
You're the only one having supported the killing of Jews in the
Holocaust, Nazi Coughlan. After all, you defended AUSCHWITZ
by insisting in your exact words -- "Auschwitz wouldn't execute
a 72-year-old-man..." See that and some of your other support
for the Nazis and the Holocaust in an array of three different URLs,
since one could not handle all of your support for the Nazis --
http://www.planetvisitor.name/dipshit_Gimmicks/gimmick_9.html
http://www.planetvisitor.name/dipshit_Gimmicks/gimmick_13.html
http://www.planetvisitor.name/dipshit_Gimmicks/gimmick_14.html
Post by Yitzhak Isaac Goldstein
For Grüber [2], you can get all the information you need, here...
http://www.nizkor.org/hweb/people/g/grosvenor-william/
Yes... you've shown quite a bit of support for him at various times....
You're a bit like Tokyo Rose in advertising his existence. It
would be too much for you to ignore him... instead you need
to trumpet your support for him.


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http://www.planetvisitor.name/dictionary.html
Post by Yitzhak Isaac Goldstein
Y.
[1] Copyright John Rennie
LOL... Here's what is Copyright by John Rennie --

"DESMOND UNEQUIVOCALLY CONFIRMED TO ME THAT
HE WAS NOT JEWISH. AT THE TIME OF OUR MEETING HE
THOUGHT IT A GREAT JOKE AND HE STILL DOES. HE IS
NOT JEWISH, HE WAS NOT BORN JEWISH, HE DOES NOT
HAVE JEWISH ANCESTRY, HE DOES NOT PRACTICE THE
JEWISH RELIGION." See --
http://groups.google.com/group/alt.activism.death-penalty/msg/92c993bba5d24130
Post by Yitzhak Isaac Goldstein
[2] 1] criminal alias after convictions for assault and embezzlement
in Newcastle-upon-Tyne: Grosvenor
One of your friends. After all, you have stated that you are more
protective of the life of a "wrongly-released murderer," than you
are of the life of your wife. We have the evidence, Nazi Coughlan.
It is stark, cold, and brutal as are most of your comments -- See --
http://www.planetvisitor.name/dipshit_Gimmicks/gimmick_28.html
Post by Yitzhak Isaac Goldstein
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AADP's 'left-wing Jewish intellectual'
Heh.. heh... You're neither Jewish nor an intellect, silly boy. See [1]
Post by Yitzhak Isaac Goldstein
http://jewish-and-proud-of-it.blogspot.com/
http://home.earthlink.net/~onetimeuse/Coughlan-is-a-lying-scumbag.blogspot.html
Post by Yitzhak Isaac Goldstein
See Jim Noles get comprehensively hammered over his idiotic
belief that 'kippa' is not a Hebrew word, and 'yarmulke' is not
a Yiddish word: http://minilien.fr/a0juqb
See my destruction of Desmond Coughlan's comment -
http://tinyurl.com/qf8yv

Of course, "kippa" is not a Hebrew word. That's too fucking
absurd to even do anything but laugh at. The French do not
decide what words are Hebrew and what words are not Hebrew.
The French looked at that HEBREW WORD, and from that
HEBREW WORD created a French word from the sound of
that Hebrew word.... created the French word "kippa"...
to symbolize the SENSE of that HEBREW WORD. The
etymological SENSE... but not the FORM. The Hebrew word
remains in the FORM of the Hebrew language....this word --
http://tinyurl.com/esrl7
TO claim that the FORM of "kippa" is the same FORM as
http://tinyurl.com/esrl7
is a form of fanatical intellectual blindness. The belief that the
French have the right to change the Hebrew language to suit
themselves. Obviously the Hebrew word
http://tinyurl.com/esrl7
is not French... so conversely the French cannot make "kippa"
become Hebrew. Although this is the claim from the toe-rag.

While Desmond Coughlan is again lying, since I have never
said that "Yarmolke" is not a Yiddish word. In fact, some time
ago, I put up a web page taken from the Oxford English Dictionary,
which states that very fact, thus I was the one having insisted it
was valid, while the toe-rag argued that the OED, _sucked big
time_, because he wanted it to. See --
Loading Image...

Then watch the toe-rag go into psychotic convulsions watching my
forcible taking out every bit of blood and bone in his argument.
The poor man is so delusional that he believes the French have
been blessed by God to not only turn wine into water, but to
change Hebrew into French, so the French will more readily be
able to dismiss the Jews as meaningful, or Hebrew as having
any validity among all members of our species. The man is so
delusional, so fixated upon France as some sort of religious
symbol in his life, that he considers whatever France decides
to do with the Hebrew language is done... stamped by his God
as fixed and final.

He is so fanatically influenced by France as a substitute for God,
that he insists France can take the Latin alphabet word -- "kippa,"
clearly a word in the Latin alphabet, and obliterate the Hebrew
word which existed long before the French word "kippa."
Simply to accommodate the French who are unfamiliar with Hebrew.
Replacing that Hebrew word, forever and ever, with that word,
"kippa," which has none of the form of the Hebrew word, which
the toe-rag insists has been obliterated from the face of the earth.
Yes, gentle reader... the toe-rag insists that --
http://tinyurl.com/esrl7
is no more. Gone forever, because he insists his God... the French...
have willed it so.

But wait, gentle reader.... he stated that --

"nowhere did I state that Hebrew uses the Latin alphabet."
and he has stated --
"The word 'kippa' is Hebrew, Jim."

Now, gentle reader... correct me if I am wrong... but doesn't
the word "kippa" use the Latin alphabet??? Ummmm... but
he says that word, in the Latin alphabet is HEBREW. Oh, shit...
it looks like Desmond has been caught in a lie again...
because in stating "the word 'kippa' is Hebrew," he is stating
that Hebrew uses the Latin alphabet.

Gentle reader... "kippa" is not Hebrew. The Hebrew word
for the "skull cap worn by observant Jews" existed long before
any word such as "Kippa," was created to also symbolize
the "skull cap worn by observant Jews." "Kippa" was
developed from the sound of the Hebrew word, to conceive
of a French word to have that same etymological SENSE,
and nothing else. "Kippa" is French. "Kippa" did not
REPLACE and thus ABOLISH the Hebrew word. End of story.

Of course, there is only Desmond's lying that keeps his motor
mouth running, since he knows just how pitiless I have been in
ripping apart each and every word he has offered. Which is
why he needed to create a blog in which he knows I cannot
respond to his lies... he believes he is safe in his lies in his blog.
Just as he thought he was safe in his shrine to Hitler. The poor
man is left with nothing but hiding from truth and justice. A
sick fuck on the run from truth and justice. Proving without
a doubt that he is not Jewish, as he does not have the courage
necessary to stand before the bar of TRUTH and answer to
his claim that he is Jewish. Knowing he cannot prove it, but
insisting that he could prove it, if he wanted to, since he claims
that Israel will accept him as Jewish. ROTFLMAO.

Maybe he can get that Arab gal, Sara, who he is apparently
banging on the side, to attest that he has been circumcised,
somehow making that proof that he is Jewish.

And I laughed... and I laughed... and I laughed... And I laughed...
and I laughed... and I laughed... And I laughed... and I laughed...
and I laughed... And I laughed... and I laughed... and I laughed...
Well... you get the idea.

[1]
Here we go again...

You simply cannot make that claim lacking proof, Desmond. You could
say "I am AADP's Captain of the Pinafore," and even offer to sing it, and it
would have exactly the same credibility. Namely -- absolutely none, Desmond.
Although you appear crazy enough to actually go around singing that you
are the "Captain of the Pinafore," given how you go around singing that
you're Jewish.

You simply cannot claim you are Jewish, nor argue that others have to
prove you are not. It is your claim... the burden of proof is on you. Without
proof, the presumption of your claim is in the negative -- See -
http://www.aoc.state.nc.us/www/public/coa/opinions/1999/981331-1.htm
"the propounder bore the burden of proving..."
See --
http://www.infidels.org/news/atheism/logic.html#shifting
"The burden of proof is always on the person asserting something."
See -
http://www.bcskeptics.info/resources/criticalthinking/irf.burden.html
"Burden of proof is a fallacy where a claimant asserts that he does not
have to prove his claim, but that his opponent has to disprove it."
See --
http://www.blupete.com/Literature/Essays/BluePete/Argument.htm#Assert
"One cannot prove a negative, thus, as the legal maxim will have it,
semper praesumitur pro negante, the presumption is always in the
negative. In the absence of the acceptance of a proposition being
true, the propounder, the person who advances the proposition
as being true, has the obligation to proving it to be true."

How many more logical and legal references must I demonstrate
to show just how worthless your claim is, Desmond? While
even you have noticed how absurd your claim is, as you insisted
it is "an UNKNOWABLE." Yet you claim to KNOW what you insist
is "an UNKNOWABLE."

You're not Jewish, Desmond. Show me one person aside from your
friend, grosvenor, who believes you. Just one. Shit, even your friend,
Darren called you a liar in your claim to being Jewish. And now John
has claimed that he believes the reason Q has killfiled you is because
of your continued lie that you are Jewish, as you make a joke of it.
You know that Earl would support you if he really believed you. So
why not just stop it, and we can move on? If you stop I'll not mention
that you ever claimed to be Jewish. I'll not make any case of it again.
You can feel satisfied that somewhere in the universe, on some far
distant planet, there is perhaps one rational person who believes you
are, and then dust your hands over that belief, while not making a joke
of your claim. While even you know deep in your heart that there is
no such person as "a rational person who believes you are Jewish."
l1z3tt3$_$
2006-10-04 17:33:14 UTC
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Post by Kenneth McVay OBC
Actually, he's Delusional, not naive, and whatever wisdom you might offer will be
ignored, unless you do it a lot, in which case he will change his name to yours while
posting his drivel :-)
I would suggest that the delusion is yours - A delusion that leads you to
attribute anonymous posts about you to a single person - In the absence of
any supporting evidence.
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Leon Trollski
2006-09-29 01:12:37 UTC
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"KenSpenser" <***@roc.usenetexchange.com> wrote in message news:***@4ax.com...

Oh, nononono. It's never their fault, like the notorious case of Diana
Yano, who drowned her two tots in the tub. She got off completely
scot-free. I guess this one wasn't a manipulative, scheming little bitch
adept at manipulating judges!
Gray Nomad
2006-09-30 22:57:45 UTC
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It's a sad case, like any others of infanticide.
But really, what is the difference between that and abortion?
At the most it's a time difference of 9 months.

Think about it.
Post by KenSpenser
A jury in Wetaskiwin Alberta Canada decided correctly, regarding the young
mother who deliberately killed her newborn son, then threw the newborn's body
over the fence into a neighbour's yard,
The jury, after lengthy deliberations and review of the evidence, convicted
the woman of manslaughter, and the court sentenced her to life in prison,
with no chance to apply for parole for at least 10 years.
The killer's family were outraged at this proper sentence, calling the jurors
bastards. Bleeding heart liars/lawyers say it is unusual for such a stern
sentence for child murders.
Perhaps people have finally had enough of the namby-pamby sentences
givenout by Canadian judges to serious criminals.
Perhaps now, more juries will actually mete out proper justice.
You do the crime, get ready to do the time.
Pity the death sentence is no longer available in Canada.
Mind you, perhaps the Conservatives will re-introduce this form of proper
punishment.
jurek
2006-10-12 09:02:42 UTC
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nie rozumiemy tego
Post by KenSpenser
A jury in Wetaskiwin Alberta Canada decided correctly, regarding the young
mother who deliberately killed her newborn son, then threw the newborn's body
over the fence into a neighbour's yard,
The jury, after lengthy deliberations and review of the evidence, convicted
the woman of manslaughter, and the court sentenced her to life in prison,
with no chance to apply for parole for at least 10 years.
The killer's family were outraged at this proper sentence, calling the jurors
bastards. Bleeding heart liars/lawyers say it is unusual for such a stern
sentence for child murders.
Perhaps people have finally had enough of the namby-pamby sentences
givenout by Canadian judges to serious criminals.
Perhaps now, more juries will actually mete out proper justice.
You do the crime, get ready to do the time.
Pity the death sentence is no longer available in Canada.
Mind you, perhaps the Conservatives will re-introduce this form of proper
punishment.
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